Figuring Out an Old Sim Breeding Cross Through a Recent Breeding

After returning to the game in July from a nearly decade long sabbatical, I have been sorting through the remaining broodmares, separating the wheat from the chaff, to see upon which to spend my meager breeding points. In the process I gave extra points to those mares in their last year of availability as a sort of swan song. After passing on one particular broodmare as not quality enough, I returned to her at the last when I came upon a cross I liked which eventually led me to figure out what may have been working with a cross I liked about 15 years ago.


The mare in question is Sparkle and Shine, a Septieme CielxImperial Falcon cross bred by ljs75 that I picked up in a $4,000 claimer in 2002. Her on-track and breeding shed (a lone Align colt bred by graywolf6) performance left a lot to be desired but Septieme Ciel was a decent sire in the Sim (6.7% stakes winners) with a great pedigree (Seattle SlewxGreen DancerxSwaps). And then there was this interesting cross I could do with her.


Utilizing Duke of Marmalade (DanehillxKingmamboxAlydar), I could cross the Seattle Slew in Septieme Ciel with the Gay Missile female line that works so well, and again the Slew with Kingmambo over the Gay Missile line (see also Lemon Drop Kid) and I had a breeding. As a bonus there is the Flower Bowl/Swaps cross in the fifth generation (both bred on a Hyperion/Beau Pere cross) which is a fetish of mine. (Duke of Marmalade’s half-brother Ruler of the World (by Galileo) would work as well, just without the Flower Bowl/Swaps cross).
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So thus begot the colt Monarda Puncata. I realized — given the mare’s previous endeavors and a theory partly premised on the probably forlorn hope that broodmares have any influence in the Sim besides what is passed on through their sons — I could very well be breeding more of a paper tiger than a quality digital Thoroughbred, but I was willing to roll the dice. After one race, a mildly closing third in a five furlong maiden special weight (70 speed figure), I’m pleased with the promise of a stretch out and possible preference for turf racing.


About a week later, I was looking at possible breedings for next year and while examining a Dubai DestinationxSummer Squall mare — an old cross I was fond of that produced at least four stakes winners for various sim trainers and fastvett’s grade I-winning millionaire Mind Eraser (with Lure as the broodmare sire and Summer Squall in the third spot) — I realized this cross brings together all the same elements as the pedigree for Monarda Puncata.
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When I used this cross before it was simply because it had worked for others previously and was cheap enough and I liked Summer Squall. But I hadn’t figured out (maybe) the why of its workings. Dubai Destination brings the Kingmambo and Seattle Slew (with an Alleged kicker) over the Gay Missile female line of Summer Squall, A.P. Indy’s half-brother though Slew, lines that just beg to be crossed.


In the future, I’ll be looking forward to the progress on Monarda Puncata while trying not to become too obsessed with exploiting this breeding gambit.

2 thoughts on “Figuring Out an Old Sim Breeding Cross Through a Recent Breeding

  • December 7, 2019 at 1:46 pm
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    Welcome back Bob….. I Like articles like these as they bring the breeding fantasy/simulation to life. After years of playing this game I’ve come to believe that nicking patterns really are a part of this game but they can change as quickly as they appear, not unlike sires and there abilities. Hopefully you can find a few new ones to help you gain success in the game.

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