Sire Chat 3/6/2018
Let’s discuss some real life sire news. One way sim-players can stay ahead of the curve in the game is to stay up to date with which sires are getting hot, which racehorses and retiring, etc. I’m going to attempt to offer regular updates, focusing on lesser-used sires and hopefully trying to include sires outside of the US. If you have a sire you would like to see mentioned or think is worth noting please feel free to post a comment or shoot me a private message on the forum. So let’s begin!
This was a big weekend for the sire Midnight Lute. He was a champion sprinter and two time winner of the Breeders’ Cup Sprint. Trainer Bob Baffert has called him one of the fastest horses he’s ever trained. He’s the best son of Kentucky Derby winner Real Quiet who descends from the red-hot stallion Fappiano. Fappiano died in 1990 at age 13 but his may be the most influential sireline in the US today. Tail-male descendants of Fappiano are represented in two main branches through his sons Unbridled (sire of Unbridled’s Song and Empire Maker) and Cryptoclearance (grandsire of Candy Ride). Midnight Lute descends through Fappiano’s son Quiet American who is also the broodmare sire of Bernardini. Another son, champion Rubiano is the broodmare sire of War Front. Interestingly Rubiano’s dam was bred to Unbridled based on the success of Rubiano and produced a mare named Tap Your Heels. Tap Your Heels didn’t do much on the track but she produced leading sire Tapit.
So with all the very fashionable Fappiano descendants available to breeders it might be easy to overlook Midnight Lute. He retired to Hill ‘n Dale Farm in KY and saw a decent sized initial book of mares who produced 111 named foals. His numbers dropped for the next three years (which is typical for a young stallion) down to a low of just 58 in his third crop. As his runners started to hit the track he gained traction and by 2015 (his sixth crop) he produced 115 named foals.
Two of those 2015 babies won major races on the way to the Kentucky Oaks this past weekend. Midnight Bisou won her second graded stakes race of the year in the Santa Ysabel at Santa Anita. She had previously won the Santa Ynez Stakes in early January. Those victories put her atop the Kentucky Oaks entry point leaderboard. Second on that list is Midnight Disguise who won the Busher Stakes at Aqueduct. It was her second stakes victory of the year and she’s pointing towards a grade two as a prep for the Oaks. Midnight Bisou is out of a Northern Dancer-line mare while Midnight Disguise is out of a mare from the Bold Ruler line.
Through the first two months of 2018 Midnight Lute has sired four stakes winners of six stakes races. In all of 2017 four of his offspring won stakes races and each only won once. None of them won a graded stakes race. Certainly more can be expected as his 2015 foal crop ages. Midnight Lute himself was a 17 hand horse who only managed 13 starts over 4 years of racing. Many of his offspring have inherited his size (Midnight Disguise is 17.2 hands already) and need time and patience to come around. Considering this trajectory of increased foal crop sizes and presumably those foals were produced by better mares Midnight Lute bears watching as a future stallion.
In the game Midnight Lute has sired 15 graded stakes winners compared to 10 in real life. He also has 866 runners compared to just 369 through 2017 in real life. In the game he has crossed really well with Danzig mares and also those from the A.P. Indy line. I am surprised he is so popular and so successful in the game, primarily because his sire (Real Quiet) and broodmare sire (Dehere) and dam’s broodmare sire (Blues Times) were not tremendously popular sim sires and don’t bring a lot to a foal’s page. On the plus side the sim foals don’t have to worry about growing pains due to large size. He already has three two year old winners. Considering his decent production record in the game he’s not a bad gamble but at the right price I might purchase shares to sit on for next year in the event that he has a banner year in 2018 and gets an upgrade.
Another stallion who had a good weekend was Shackleford. Shackleford won the 2011 Preakness and 2012 Met Mile and Clark Handicap. A grandson of Storm Cat by Forestry, Shackleford was produced by the Unbridled mare Oatsee. She was named Broodmare of the Year in 2011 after having previously produced grade one winner Lady Joanne and two other graded winners. He entered stud in 2013 at Darby Dan Farm and produced 118 named foals from his first crop but that number dropped down to only 73 in his second. He sired only two graded stakes winners from his first crop (so far) with Malagacy taking a grade two as a three year old and Well Abled winning a grade three at two. Shackleford’s smaller second crop included two year grade three winner Dream It Is and Promises Fulfilled. On Saturday Promises Fulfilled dominated a strong field in the Grade Two Fountain of Youth, trouncing last year’s two year old champion Good Magic in his three year old debut. He was produced by the very good Marquetry mare Marquee Delivery. She was a graded placed runner and of her four previous foals three were winners including a stakes winner.
Shackleford has not been a rousing success so far as a stallion. His father, Forestry was a disappointment as a sire. He was royally bred, a grade one winner produced by a grade one winning mare and entered stud as the highest priced sire of his generation at $50,000. His fee eventually swelled to $125,000 but the crop produced for that fee included only two graded stakes winners, of which Shackleford was one of them. Forestry shuttled to Brazil for several years and in 2014 it was decided he would not return from that country. Certainly having a major son on the Triple Crown Trail could change Shackleford’s fortunes significantly and the astute sim-breeder should keep an ear out to see what Promises Fulfilled does next. In the game Shackleford has produced seven graded stakes winners to date. The flip side of this situation is that, if Shackleford doesn’t have a hit horse this season he may well be exiled from Kentucky as well and since he’s doing better in the game in real life acquiring a share at this point is certainly a gamble.
The last sire I want to mention this week is a newly retired horse, Russian Revolution. He is retiring to stud for the 2018 Australian season but oddly he is already available in the game. He bred 21 foals in 2017 and so far 8 in 2018. Of those 17 are winners already. Russian Revolution won two group one races in Australia, the 2017 The Galaxy and the 2018 Oakleigh Plate. Both races were run at 1100m (which is about 5 ½ furlongs Yanks). He was a blazing fast son of Australian super sire Snitzel out of a Stravinsky mare named Ballet D’Amour. Ballet D’Amour was bred and raced in the US but was sent to Australia for a broodmare career. Her first two foals did poorly but her 2012 filly by Sebring became a group three winner and Russian Revolution is her 2013 foal.
Ballet D’Amour was an interesting acquisition for Australia. She is a tail-female descendent of the immortal Fanfreluche who was named Canadian Horse of the Year and Champion 3 Year Old Filly in the US in 1970. She was also awarded the Sovereign Award for Outstanding Broodmare in 1978. Fanfreluche has had an impact on Australian breeding through her granddaughter Rolls. Rolls was bred in Kentucky but never raced and was shipped to Australia. She only produced three foals. Her first was the Star Way mare Shoal Creek. Shoal Creek was bred to Fairy King and produced leading sire Encosta de Lago. Later Rolls saw the court of Danehill to whom she produced leading sire Flying Spur. Ballet D’Amour’s second foal was by Flying Spur and again that foal was not a successful racer. But it seems safe to say that Russian Revolution will see some mares by Encosta de Lago and Flying Spur in his book.
I mention Midnight Lute in Look of Eagles this week, where is my footnote?! I would say Midnight Lute has been very popular in the SIM for a variety of reasons:
1. Breeder’s Cup Winner – so was highly visable
2. Gets horses on the Derby Trail
3 Gets G1 winners in the SIM
4. Is great SIM value – can get him for 200-300 each week.
5. Throws monster sized horses IRL – who doesn’t like a big horse? The call in Midnight’s Disguise race is awesome about her size
Midnight Bisou is one of my two favorites for the KY Oaks (the other being Dream Tree). I detail the Dream Tree vs Midnight Bisou match ups in Look of Eagles.
Shackleford is a borderline flop and Promised whatever should never have won the Fountain of Youth. Promised whatever is a pure front runner and it’s inexplicable why Good Magic didn’t roll over him in the stretch. Strike Power would have blown past him if he could ever figure out how to change leads. The only way I would use him in the SIM is if I drew a breeding card of his (and I actually liked Forestry).
I don’t know who Russian Revolution is but I used him last year because I like the name – hah. Like the idea of the series.
Everyone is talking about Midnight Lute this week after his big weekend. I think all the major American thoroughbred news outlets have profiles on him. I think the big takeaway from his recent success is a broad outline of the way real life breeding works (and maybe I should have focused on this more in the article). The current 3yos were foaled in 2015. That means they were bred in 2014. During the 2014 breeding season Lute’s first foals had just turned four years old. The reason he had such a big book in 2014 was because those first foals did very well as three year olds in 2013. Two of those foals won G1s as three year olds in 2013 Shakin It Up in the Malibu and Midnight Lucky in the Acorn. Why I like him as a potential value stud for 2019 is that the 2015 crop should be his best ever (based on number of foals and quality of mares used) and now that they are 3yos there might be some real good ones coming out of the woodwork in the next 9 months.
Shackleford is in a position where this is a make it or break it time for him. That’s why I said buying shares now is a big gamble. In that he is much like Forestry who on paper should have been a great sire but wasn’t. Whether you like Promises Fulfilled or not it is useful for a game player to be aware of him if they are at all interested in using Shackleford as a sire for all the reasons I mentioned.
Like your write up ..Spin..I have a Midnight Lute mare with DS Housebuster that I really liked in real racing ..any suggestions who i should breed her to ??
In the game Midnight Lute is responsible for the dams of 10 stakes winners, two of which were graded winners. The graded winners were by Var and To Honor and Serve. The Var son is 2017 champion 2yo dirt colt Ion My Way. Interestingly his dam has only been bred to Var and also has a GP/SW 4yo. With so little direct data on Midnight Lute as DS I would probably try to breed your mare based on type i.e. if she was a dirt sprinter I’d find a strong dirt sprint sire.
I have 3 Midnight Lute mares I have retired and begun using. I’ve used them with Iffraaj (GP), Super Saver (4x winning streak interestingly on turf), Texas Red (flop but Afleet Alex loyalty) and War Front. My Midnight Lutes seem to have an affinity for turf. Since Midnight Lute is free from Northern Dancer and for the most part Mr. P any of the sons of Storm Cat (and Giant’s Causeway sons) are good here as are the many Danzig/Danehill sires. Indy and sons are options and Galileo sons. Tons of turf and dirt options. My Midnight Lute’s tended to be bred to Storm Cat or Indy mares so if you didn’t use those in the DS spot with Lute you have lots of tasty options when breeding.
Thanks for the comments…
I owned a % of a Midnight Lute. She got claimed. I got out of real horse racing shortly after.
Since you are taking requests, I would like to know if there are any descendants of Graustark doing well in the sim. I love Graustark! I have been playing the game for 4 years now and just learned about Yosss a few months ago and how to use the sire list a couple of months before that. So previously when I was breeding, I was breeding blindly! During that time I scratch bred an Istan x Alysheba x Graustark. Really blindly, just pulling it out of the air, with Istan so it’s a NY bred and I can run her in ESR local races. The crap shoot that she was, she didn’t do that badly unlike most of my horses.
Hi Valesa, Graustark is an interesting case study. His sireline has pretty much died out. His best son at stud was Key to the Mint who sired three sons of import – Java Gold, Sauce Boat and Plugged Nickle. Of those three only Java Gold has sons who are still active as sires in the sim – Burma Gold and Boreal. Sauce Boat was most famous as being the broodmare sire of Tabasco Cat who currently has four sons active for 2yo breeding in the game. Plugged Nickle is the broodmare sire of several active sires, most notably Wild Rush in Japan. Key to the Mint himself was a solid broodmare sire as well, most notably through his son Mountain Cat who has several sons still active.
Graustark is the broodmare sire of one good current sire – Mizzen Mast. Mizzen Mast is not as good in the game as he is in real life (IMO) but he’s solid. He was also the broodmare sire of Sea Hero who has one active son still at stud. Sea Hero’s dam was the amazing mare Glowing Tribute who also produced the sire Hero’s Honor (still available as a DS in the game and at a good price). She also produced the mare Wild Applause who was responsible for the sires Blare of Trumpets, Eastern Echo and Roar. Roar and Eastern Echo have sons at stud, most notably Swiss Yodeler by Eastern Echo. The best sires to come from this family are two really, really good ones – the full brothers Congrats and Flatter (both by A.P. Indy out of Wild Appause’s daughter Praise by Mr. Prospector).
Graustark’s full brother His Majesty still has an active sireline through that one’s son Pleasant Colony. Pleasant Colony has seven sires still at stud, none of them are particularly good but Pleasantly Perfect in Turkey has done better in the game than IRL. Pleasant Colony’s son Pleasant Tap was a solid sire who left David Junior behind in Japan to succeed him. He also sired Tiago (a half brother to Giacomo) but sadly that one passed away a few years ago.
Hope this helped.
Tonalist has Pleasant Colony as his DS and that is likely your best bet for a SIM sire with some juice within these parameters. American Freedom has Pleasant Tap as his DS. He is a Pulpit and this is his first year at stud so he is an interesting option here.