2020 Freshman Sire Profile – Too Darn Hot

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Too Darn Hot

Dubawi – Dar Re Mi, Singspiel

Standing for 50,000 pouds at Dalham Stud


Too Darn Hot was Europe’s Champion Juvenile Male in 2018 after an undefeated season. He was four for four with three group victories. He sealed his champion status with a decisive win in the Group One Dewhurst Stakes which is typically one of the most important juvenile races in England and the last group one of the year for juveniles there. Finishing behind Too Darn Hot that day was group one winning juvenile Advertise in second and group two winning juvenile Anthony Van Dyck. Both would go on to win group ones as three year olds with Anthony Van Dyck taking the Epsom Derby. The other two group races Too Darn Hot won were the group two Champagne and the Group Three Solario. All three of Too Darn Hot’s group races came at seven furlongs, although he did break his maiden going a mile by seven furlongs.

Too Darn Hot’s three year old season could be considered a disappointment after going undefeated as a two year old but realistically it was a solid season that might have been slightly mismanaged. He was initially routed to the Dante Stakes, a traditional prep for the English Derby. It may have been slightly too far for him as trainer John Gosden returned him to shorter distances. He finished third in the St James Palace (G1) to Circus Maximus and then was second behind Phoenix of Spain in the Irish 2000 Guineas (G1). Both races came at a mile but Too Darn Hot proved he could make that trip while winning the Group One Sussex at that distance and defeating both Circus Maximus and Phoenix of Spain while doing so. In his final start he dropped back to seven furlongs to win the Group One Prix Jean Prat. He sustained a career ending injury in the running. He retired with six wins from nine starts and never finished off the board.


Too Darn Hot’s sire Dubawi probably needs little introduction as he is one of the best contemporary sires in Europe and likely one of the top sires ever to stand in England. He is the sire of over 100 group winners (the only English based sire to do that although one has to consider that book sizes have dramatically increased in modern times) and the sire of 41 group one winners. Still from a percentage standpoint he ranks well. He is advertised as getting 16% stakes winners and 10% group winners. Dubawi was the best son of the ill-fated Dubai Millennium who only sired one crop. In many ways it is gratifying to see his line continued in such a way as he was an amazing racehorse. Dubawi himself was best at a mile with wins in the Group Ones Irish 2000 Guineas and Prix Jaques le Marois at that distance as a three year old and a seven furlong win in the Group One National Stakes as a two year old. It should be remembered that he was good enough to stay on for third in the Epsom Derby (G1). Dubawi has imparted this versatility in distance to his offspring. Along with Too Darn Hot his group one winners in 2019 include distance runner Old Persian (Dubai Sheema Classic and Northern Dancer Stakes) as well as Coronet who won the mile and a half Group One Grand Prix de Saint Cloud.

Too Darn Hot is out of the fantastic race and broodmare Dar Re Mi. She is a daughter of Singspiel who won three group one races in her career including a smashing victory in the Dubai Sheema Classic against males. Of her five foals to race two others are group winners and group one placed, both by Dubawi. She also has a group placed by Oasis Dream. Dar Re Mi is a daughter of group one winner Darara by Top Ville and a half sister to two group one winning champions. Darara’s dam was group placed Delsy who produced the champion Darshaan who became a powerhouse sire in Europe and is a great source of stamina in pedigrees even today. She was also granddam to the solid sire Daliapour.

Too Darn Hot’s pedigree makes him a very interesting son of Dubawi. Dubawi has produced three other group one winners out of Singspiel mares including the aforementioned Old Persian. What is interesting though is that he has also produced three group one winners out of Darshaan mares, including Coronet. Unsurprisingly he has crossed well with sons of Sadler’s Wells. He has three group one winners from daughters of Barathea as well as two from Galileo mares and one from a Montjeu mare. Singspiel himself is a grandson of Sadler’s Wells.


Unsurprisingly Dubawi is quite popular and successful in the game. He is currently the ninth leading active sire and it should be noted that three of the sires above him have produced their last crops in real life. He gets 72% turf runners and 61% routers. He is the sire of a whopping 327 stakes winners (interestingly by percentage he is not far off his real life number there with 17.7% of his runners stakes winners) and 47 graded winners (again close to real life at 10.2%). He consistently sires over 150 runners per year and they seem to need time to mature, unlike in real life where he does well with younger horses. He has sired three champions and thirty eight grade one winners. That last stat is interesting as most sim sires have more grade one winners than their real life counterparts but Dubawi again has forty one grade/group winners in real life. Six of his grade one winners were produced by Kingmambo mares and another six from Sadler’s Wells mares. Interestingly Galileo mares have only produced one grade one winner for Dubawi but daughters of his sons New Approach and Frankel have each produced one. The third line that crosses really well with Dubawi is Danzig. He himself has produced two grade one winner but his sons and grandsons have produced another five. Lastly Pivotal has produced two grade one winners as well.


Too Darn Hot carries no crosses of Danzig in his pedigree and given his speed sons of Danzig must be considered. War Front and Danehill (and his son Danehill Dancer) must all be considered. Danzig’s son Green Desert and his son Invincible Spirit would also be good sources of stamina but Green Desert’s son Cape Cross and his son Sea the Stars would impart more stamina to a pedigree. Pivotal might be an interesting cross at a good price and his son Siyouni has been making waves both in real life and in the game. To go for a more stamina based pedigree inbreeding to Sadler’s Wells would be an obvious way to go. If I were looking to breed a long-distance running Too Darn Hot my pick for DS or DDS might be Darshaan to see if the similar elements in the pedigrees of those two might play off each other.

2 thoughts on “2020 Freshman Sire Profile – Too Darn Hot

    • November 11, 2019 at 7:22 pm

      I think we’ll have to see how he opens up next year. He should be hot early on but I wouldn’t be surprised if you could get him in the 300s or lower by March. Of course it all depends on what Mike says about him in the freshman sire reveal later this year.

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