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First Year Sire The Autumn Sun Represented by First Graded Stakes Winner

Australia’s brilliant The Autumn Sun earned his first stakes win in his new career as a sire when Mano2’s Moor Autumn edged away to a 3/4-length victory in the Salisbury Medallion (G3) last Saturday in South Africa. Moor Autumn earned an 85 speed figure in the win for the six furlong race and retained his perfect record from three starts.

The Autumn Sun won eight of nine career starts with five of the wins coming in grade one stakes. The Autumn Sun was retired sound early in his career and will attempt to replace his sire, Redoute’s Choice, at Arrowfield Stud. He was available for ($AUS) 77,000 in his first season and is now listed at ($AUS) 66,000. The Autumn Sun hails from a quality female family from Aga Khan Studs, which includes Azamour and Astarabad. His three sire profile for the Sim is Redoute’s Choice x Galileo x Lear Fan. The Autumn Sun won grade one races from 1400 to 2000 meters. He should garner attention from quality mares which should give him a good chance at success in real life and hopefully will keep him from getting one of those dreaded sire downgrades in this game.

In the Sim, The Autumn Sun is ranked third of his crop in Australia behind Bondi and Belle Reve, but is the lone graded stakes winner to date. While Belle Reve has a stakes winner (Firsthome’s Sydney to Hobart), that came in one of those residency- first-season-sire-restricted races. All told, The Autumn Sun has five winners thus far from 43 to race.

The Autumn Sun sports the very fashionable Danehill over Sadler’s Wells cross, so it will be interesting to see how Sim breeders deal with the abundance of Northern Dancer blood. Often the answer seems to be more, please. Moor Autumn is from a Giant’s Causeway (Northern Dancer via Storm Cat) mare, as is Adrian7’s Autumn Sigure. The latter one’s stablemate, Nevaeh Sun gets a contribution of Northern Dancer son Nureyev through broodmare sire Kingmambo and has Storm Cat as the dam’s broodmare sire. Like Nevaeh Storm, Tbrag’s winner Reflexion utilizes a Mr. Prospector-line sire (Smart Strike) with a strain of Northern Dancer (Deputy Minister, in this case). The other winner, Rooster04’s Snow Cloud, hails from a Turn-To line broodmare sire (Dynaformer) but picks up that Nureyev strain from the dam’s-dam sire, Kingmambo. The Autumn Sun also has a maiden restricted-stakes placed colt by Montjeu, who is inbred 4×3 to Sadler’s Wells and 4×4 to Danzig, giving him four Northern Dancer strains in his five-generation pedigree.

So the Storm Cat line, specifically through Giant’s Causeway is working with the need to realize the sample size is very small. Dazzler9 and Dargo both have unraced The Autumn Sun juveniles from Giant’s Causeway mares so it will be interesting to see how they fare.

The Autumn Sun reminds me somewhat of another first-crop sire, Demarchlier. Both were only once defeated in abbreviated racing careers and both have immaculate pedigrees. The Autumn Sun stands at quite a higher price than Demarchlier in a region that values turf racing, was much more accomplished in his racing career, and so his sustained success seems more likely.


3 thoughts on “First Year Sire The Autumn Sun Represented by First Graded Stakes Winner”

  • bobthehatPost author

    Another winner today for The Autumn Sun as a sire–debuts with a 72 speed figure. The Autumn Sun is from a Danehill over Galileo cross and the broodmare sire for today’s winner was Frankel, who is from a Galileo over Danehill cross.

  • itchycoopark

    I bred the first Autumn sun in the sim Tokoy to sydney, I bred an out cross totally away from northern dancer in street cry x secretariat. The filly ran ok on debut just getting run down on the post ,the sp was a little slow so I am giving her plenty of time before another run. What bothers me is all the TAS winners so far are from broodmare sires he will not see in real life.He stands in Australia but all the broodmare sires that he actually will get mares by in real life will not be as good in the sim . all his winners so far are Giant Causeway(way over rated in the sim) kingmambo , Dynaformer ,Frankel and Curlin who have zero impact as broodmare sire’s in Australia.It’s not realistic.I see this with Australian sires all the time in the sim, most if not all the best progeny are from broodmare sires they will hardly ever get bred to in real life. It exposes a flaw in the sim breeding model and ratings.

    • bobthehatPost author

      Good comment, Itchcoopark. Many years ago, I scratchbred a true Florida-bred horse, utilizing three Florida-based sires. But even in the Florida-sire restricted races it was at a disadvantage to ones with more stellar (Kentucky-based) dam-side sires. If it were possible to have regional restricted races be tied to both sire and broodmare sire, there would be races that could be competitive and better depict reality. Until then, it comes down to how you want to play the game. Though I might know doing a DanehillxGalileo sire over a GalileoxDanehill broodmare sire works in the Sim, I can’t do it myself.

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