{"id":8306,"date":"2010-08-09T23:56:36","date_gmt":"2010-08-09T23:56:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blacktypebugler.com\/?p=8306"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","slug":"oldbtb_5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/?p=8306","title":{"rendered":"Breeding males"},"content":{"rendered":"

I\u2019ve been taking a look at my highest male earners to see what impact that has on the new horse. I will only look at horses raced and bred. Below follows each horse and off-spring as well as comments on what might have gone wrong or right. (+ = better than average, 0 = average and – = worse than average)<\/p>\n

Bustfully Not Raul<\/a> (Seattle Slew\/Bugle Note\/Sea-Bird) $1,625,063<\/b> <\/p>\n
Tete Not Galileo (IRE) (Galileo\/Seattle Slew\/Bugle Note) $755,235 <\/p>\n
I used a great sire and got a really good horse from Bustfully Not Raul. Considering the wear and tear factor I probably got something better than I had. (++)<\/p>\n
Pro Woody<\/a> (Major Luck\/Mr. Prospector\/Rube The Great) $1,295,549<\/b> <\/p>\n
Tete Woody (IRE) (Singspiel\/Major Luck\/Mr. Prospector) $0 <\/p>\n
I used a good sire, not top of the line, but not bad. Pro Woody\u2019s sire is though a horrible one. The off-spring became nothing \u2013 it didn\u2019t even earn a single dime. It didn\u2019t match Singspiel sire statistics, but wasn\u2019t many dollars from matching Major Luck\u2019s dam sire stats \u2013 how about that!? (-0)<\/p>\n
Tete Novembre (IRE) <\/a> (Noverre\/Sadler\u2019s Wells\/Blushing Groom) $1,153,190<\/b> <\/p>\n
Naamah Novembre (IRE) (Danehill Dancer\/Noverre\/Sadler\u2019s Wells) $94,659 <\/p>\n
I used a great sire. Noverre wasn\u2019t all that bad in those days, so the effect from that wouldn\u2019t be all that much. The horse turned out okey, but not what we all dream about having. I matched Danehill Dancer (before the upgrade) and out-ran horses with Noverre as a dam sire. (0+)<\/p>\n
Tete The Undead (AUS) <\/a> (Testa Rossa\/Unbridled\u2019s Song\/Diesis) $1,057,839<\/b> <\/p>\n
Naamah The Undead (IRE) (Montjeu\/Testa Rossa\/Unbridled\u2019s Song) $222,246 <\/p>\n
I used a great sire, so the pedigree is really great. The horse won 1 claim and 7 starters, so it might look a bit better than it really was. The horse turned out really well, when it comes to money earned, but it never was a star. It\u2019s at least better than average for both sire and dam sire statistics. (++)<\/p>\n
Lepaca Drakon<\/a> (Kingmambo\/Storm Cat\/Wheatly Hall) $920,169<\/b> <\/p>\n
Teteverre (IRE) (Noverre\/Kingmambo\/Storm Cat) $162,766 <\/p>\n
I used a good sire, so the pedigree looks really good. The horse though didn\u2019t become anything else than a decent allowance runner, but way over par anyway. It earned a lot more than those sired by Noverre and was par for as a dam sire Kingmambo. (+0)<\/p>\n
Prospector Dancing<\/a> (Mr. Prospector\/Green Dancer\/Meritable) $818,848<\/b> <\/p>\n
Tete Or Opera (T. M. Opera O\/Mr. Prospector\/Green Dancer) $135,750 <\/p>\n
I used a good sire, T. M. Opera O was way hotter back then. The horse had a short career, running in allowance with at least a couple of good runs over sp#100. It lived up to the pedigree though, better than others sired by T. M. Opera O, worse than those with Mr. Prospector as dam sire. (+-)<\/p>\n
Ali\u2019s Showers (IRE) <\/a> (Ela-Mana-Mou\/Raja Baba\/Secretariat) $768,062<\/b> <\/p>\n
Tete\u2019s Showers (IRE) (Galileo\/Ela-Mana-Mou\/Raja Baba) $134,153 <\/p>\n
I used a great sire, so the pedigree looks like somewhat of a dream. This horse also had a short career, running in allowance with at least a couple of good runs over sp#100. It won 25% of its races though. It\u2019s an average Galileo horse, and way better than most with the same dam sire. (0+)<\/p>\n
Gold Kingdom<\/a> (Ogygian\/Seeking The Gold\/Lypheor) $759,692<\/b> <\/p>\n
Tetesagian (FR) (Sagamix\/Ogygian\/Seeking The Gold) $33,400 <\/p>\n
Since I really like Linamix I figured I would use its latest star, Sagamix. It was at this time a good sire, not more. Ogygian on the other hand has never been a good sire, and having it as the dam sire didn\u2019t do any good this time. The horse won one race (sp#73) but had to end its career after 10 races. The horse earned over par for a Sagamix and on par for a Ogygian. (+0)<\/p>\n
Tete Not Galileo (IRE) <\/a> (Galileo\/Seattle Slew\/Bugle Note) $755,235<\/b> <\/p>\n
Nasu Not Galileo (GB) (Diesis\/Galileo\/Seattle Slew) $201,140 <\/p>\n
I used a great sire. The pedigree is all through great. After a pretty good allowance career it ran a sp#100 in a claim, which became the peak. It earned more money than the average horse, but didn\u2019t turn out to something special. (++)<\/p>\n
Tete Galactic (IRE) <\/a> (Galileo\/Blushing Groom\/Caerleon) $603,865<\/b> <\/p>\n
Nasu Galactic (GB) (Diesis\/Galileo\/Blushing Groom) $51,425 <\/p>\n
I used Diesis again \u2013 my, am I predictable! Great pedigree didn\u2019t help this horse though. It won 2 races and scored a sp#93 when ending up 7th in a allowance in Norway. That says it all! It became half as good as most horses with the same sire and dam sire. (–)<\/p>\n
Summing up, it seems as if breeding to males is pretty good, as long as they are good from the beginning and their pedigree is good. Most horses turned out equal or better than one would expect. Eleven times the result was better than sire\/dam sire, while four times it was worse.<\/p>\n
The four times it was worse was both sire and dam sire for Nasu Galactic who only managed to earn half of what was expected, Tete Or Opera that was about $30,000 short for Mr. Prospector (but the horse had a very short career) and Tete Woody that lacked $50,000 to match its sire.<\/p>\n
All those are balanced up by one horse earning more than $700,000. Without that horse it still would be better to breed to a male than the average breeding. On the other hand it\u2019s not likely that you would get better than the ones you bred\u2026<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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