{"id":787,"date":"2005-10-05T17:22:52","date_gmt":"2005-10-05T17:22:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blacktypebugler.com\/?p=787"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","slug":"oldbtb_6","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/?p=787","title":{"rendered":"New Horse!  Now What?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">&#8220;I just bred this horse, what is it going to want?<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Turf or dirt?<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\"><\/SPAN>Sprints or Routes?<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>What should I expect?&#8221;<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = \"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office\" \/><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">This (or some variation on it) is probably the single most commonly <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">asked question in the game.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>The honest truth is that, unless you used <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">the &#8220;random breeding&#8221; feature, you&#8217;re asking the question too late.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\"><\/SPAN>It is best to decide what kind of horse you want before you breed it, <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">and then find the sires that are most likely to produce that kind of <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">runner.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">But if you didn&#8217;t do that (or haven&#8217;t bred a horse yet and want to know <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">what to look for) here are some ways to figure out what that new horse <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">might want to do.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">A good place to start is the sire\u2019s Sim stats.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Look up the sire on the <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">horse ticker and click on the \u201cs\u201d next to his name.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>This will give you <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">a quick overview of how well that sire\u2019s offspring have done in the game.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\"><\/SPAN>The first section will show the number of runners, the percent that <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">have won a race, won a stakes race, and won a graded stakes race.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>It <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">also shows the total money earned and the amount earned per starter.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\"><\/SPAN>This is useful information in determining the likely quality of the <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">horse you have bred, or going to breed.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>But it won\u2019t necessarily help <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">you decide where to run your horse first.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">The last two columns are what we\u2019re going to focus on.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>If you look at <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">the right side of the screen, you will see a column headed \u201cD$\/T$ %\u201d and <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">a second column \u201cS$\/R$ %.\u201d These show the percent of earnings broken <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">down by surface and distance.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">Look up Diesis(GB), for example.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>The total in the \u201cD$\/T$\u201d column says <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">24%\/76%.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>24% of the money earned by sim horses sired by Diesis was <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">earned in dirt races, while 76% was earned in turf races.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Clearly, <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">Diesis(GB) is a strong turf influence.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">The \u201cS$\/R$\u201d column shows 26%\/74%. 26% of the money was earned in sprints, <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">while 74% was earned in routes.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>So Diesis(GB) is a strong route <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">influence as well as a turf influence.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>The logical place to start a <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">horse sired by Diesis(GB) would be a turf route.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">If you look up Orientate, you will get results that are almost the <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">opposite of those for Diesis(GB).<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Orientate\u2019s offspring have earned <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">63% of their money on dirt, and only 37% on turf.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>They have also earned <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">73% of their money sprinting, and only 27% routing.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>So if your horse is <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">sired by Orientate, a dirt sprint would be your best starting race.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">The sim also has statistics for dam\u2019s sires, but doesn\u2019t have information <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">for dam\u2019s dam\u2019s sires. <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">You do want to be cautious if the sire has a limited number of offspring.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\"><\/SPAN>Groovy Jett, for example, has only 9 runners in the last 5 years, and <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">well over half the earnings came from a single horse.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Groovy Jett may <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">be a turf sprint influence as the breakdown of percentages indicates. <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">Or he may have had a single daughter who could sprint on turf but he <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">is actually a dirt influence or a route influence.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>I honestly don&#8217;t <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">know.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>With a small number of offspring, it\u2019s hard to be certain how <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">seriously to take the numbers.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>In spite of these limitations, the Sim <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">sire stats are still a great place to start.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">There are a lot of other resources out there too &#8211; YOSS.info, <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">pedigreequery.com, bloodhorse.com, and thoroughbredtimes.com, just to <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">name a few.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Of these, YOSS.info is the only one that is based on the <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">Sim.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>The others are sites for real, flesh and blood horses.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">At YOSS.info, you can look up a sire by name or ID, and see his sire, <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">dam\u2019s sire (DS), or dam\u2019s dam\u2019s sire (DDS) information.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>You can also <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">search for offspring based on age, and sort by highest speed figure on <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">dirt or turf, number of wins, and by other sires in the pedigree.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>This <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">can be very helpful in planning a mating.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Say you have decided you <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">want a turf router, and have chosen Theatrical(IRE) as the sire.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Go to <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">YOSS.info and looking up Theatrical\u2019s offspring ages 4 and up.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Sort by <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">\u201cTurfMX\u201d and the list will be sorted by highest speed figure earned on <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">turf. The top three horses listed have Roberto, Halo, and Rahy as <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">dam\u2019s sire.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>All three of these horses have Hail to Reason in their <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">pedigree, so a son or grandson of Hail to Reason would be a good choice <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">as dam\u2019s sire.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">You may be asking \u201cHow did Delta know that they all have Hail to Reason <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">in their pedigree?\u201d<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>No, I don&#8217;t have a photographic memory of the <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">pedigree of sires like Roberto.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>I went to pedigreequery.com and looked <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">them up.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>You can also look up their pedigree in the Sim, using either <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">the 2x or 5x links next to the sire\u2019s name in the horse ticker.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\"><\/SPAN>Pedigreequery.com provides some useful information that isn&#8217;t avilable <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">on the Sim&#8217;s pedigree report such as dosage, progeny reports, and <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">reports on stakes races the horse ran in.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>This can give you an idea <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">about what sort of an influence a sire will be, though sometimes a horse <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">that ran on dirt can be a turf sire or a horse with a low dosage <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">(indicating stamina) can produce mostly sprinters. <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">Thoroughbredtimes.com and bloodhorse.com both have sire lists and <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">stallion registers that you can use to find information about sires or <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">browse to find new sires to use.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>Bloodhorse.com also has a list of <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">sires of turf runners that includes a percent of earnings.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>This is <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">another useful tool in finding turf sires.<\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">Whatever resource you use, always keep in mind that pedigree doesn&#8217;t <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">necessarily run true.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>If it did, Cigar would have made a name for <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">himself of turf.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>So be sure to give your horse a try on each surface, <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">and sprinting as well as routing.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN>You&#8217;ll never really know what your <\/PRE><PRE style=\"LINE-HEIGHT: 14.4pt\">horse is best at until you&#8217;ve given it a chance to tell you. <\/PRE><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You&#8217;ve just gotten your new horse.  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