{"id":7626,"date":"2009-12-31T21:30:12","date_gmt":"2009-12-31T21:30:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blacktypebugler.com\/?p=7626"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","slug":"oldbtb_5","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/?p=7626","title":{"rendered":"Talking Bargains &#8211; Yonaguska"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">Talking Bargains<\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = \"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office\" \/><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">We at the Bargain Bred Racing Series will kick around breeding ideas on bargain sires from time to time. We decided to put some in writing and the first sire up is Yonaguska. On the track Yonaguska was a good two year old winning the G1 Hopeful. He was a pretty solid three year old taking the G2 Hutcheson, G2 Fall Heighweight, and G3 Sport Page.<\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">He was a very salty sprinter who like many sprinters did ok stretching out as a two year old. He is off to a solid start as a sire based in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = \"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags\" \/><st1:State><st1:place>Louisiana<\/st1:place><\/st1:State>. He has been the top LA sire the past two seasons in real life so should draw some attention from those that are looking for local breds to race at the <st1:State><st1:place>Louisiana<\/st1:place><\/st1:State> track. <\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">Yonaguska is from the Blushing Groom sire line by Cherokee Run. His dam sire is by Silver Ghost out of the Mr. Prospector line while his dam\u2019s dam sire is Buckaroo out of the Buckpasser line. His dosage index is 4.14. <\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">His best off spring so far has been Musket Man who made a splash with top three year olds this year. Musket Man won the <st1:State><st1:place>Illinois<\/st1:place><\/st1:State> and Tampa Bay Derby before going on to finish third in the Kentucky Derby and Preakness. He is inbred to Mr. Prospector 4 X 4 with his dam having the Mr. Prospector by Northern Dancer cross. <\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">He has one stakes winner in the sim, and he was a two year old stakes winner. That runner was Bargain Bred and did compete in the BBRS running third in the Bargain Derby. His dam sire was <st1:Street><st1:address>Cahil Road<\/st1:address><\/st1:Street> which like Musket Man was inbred to Mr. Prospector 4 X 4. <\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">Here are what a few BBRS trainers had to say about Yonaguska\u2026.<\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><B style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\">Fastnfirm <\/B>\u2013 I used Yonaguska once for a bargain-bred, TUNGUSKA EVENT(KY), 132270.\u00a0 He didn&#8217;t win for me, but I did get back all my breeding points through a series of placings in maiden races.\u00a0 He&#8217;s now 5 years old and has been consistent in the high 70&#8217;s-low 80&#8217;s range for speeds.\u00a0 I used a son of <st1:place>Danzig<\/st1:place> as the DS to bring in some Northern Dancer, then Hold Your Tricks at DDS.\u00a0 I could afford about 50 points in the DDS position, and Hold Your Tricks seemed to bring a little quality in that spot.\u00a0 \u00a0<o:p><\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><B style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\">MTK76<\/B> &#8211; I saw that Yonaguska&#8217;s sire Cherokee Run was recently pensioned due to declining fertility he was a good underrated sire.<BR><BR>My strategy for breeding to Yonaguska would be to pair him based off of nicks to his successful real life runners. Musket Man is Yonaguska X Fortunate Prospect X Dixieland Band so to mimic this nick I&#8217;d probably use the same DS or other Mr. P son blood and then throw on a son of Northern Dancer that fit the price.<BR><BR>His second most successful runner is Dehere X Taufan (son of Stop The Music) so I would probably try to use a son of Deputy Minister (best one I could find and fit a bargain) X a son of a son of Hail To Reason (starting to sound like a Jimmy Buffet song here)<o:p><\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><B style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\">Axeracing<\/B> &#8211; Since his progeny are already covered, i&#8217;ll try digging a little deeper.<BR><BR>Lots of stuff in there to work with! How about Selene. She&#8217;s already in his dam&#8217;s pedigree through Sickle and Pharamond. Hyperion is missing. <st1:place>Danzig<\/st1:place>, Nureyev, and Trempolino all look like they would go good to me for DS. They all have Hyperion crosses.<BR><BR>Shoot, throw Mr. P himself on the end, and you have it all!<BR><BR>There&#8217;s a lot you could do bargain wise, too. Blushing Groom inbreds\/linebreds seem to be hot, and Blushing Groom crosses good with Fappiano. His pedigree is just begging for Northern Dancer, and Roberto might be a good idea, too. Just another partially informed opinion. <\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><B style=\"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal\">Knightmare<\/B> \u2013 I really like his pedigree with Blushing Groom over Mr. Prospector over Buckpasser. While speedy I think the pedigree sets up well to cross with Northern Dancer line dam sires. I might also look at trying to add some stamina from a Ribot line or Halo line dam\u2019s dam sire. Seattle Slew, Secretariat line sires would seem good choices as well. <\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">I can see where his offspring could do well on turf despite the fact he has not really done so thus far in the sim. The Blushing Groom line will produce turf runners and if you are crossing him with a Northern Dancer line dam sire you could get some turf influence. So having said all of that I would narrow my focus to Northern Dancer line dam sires.<\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">Yonaguska has been falling to around 40-45 points at the end of the week. So I would look at a dam sire in the same range maybe a bit higher from the Northern Dancer line. Specifically I like sons of Storm Cat here and I think Vision and Verse could be a good match. Vision and Verse gets around the 45-50 point mark, so we need a really cheap dam\u2019s dam sire.<\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">I like the thought of adding a son of Alydar here. The Storm Cat by Alydar cross was a good one, so why not have it on the dam side with Yonaguska. There are a couple of Alydar sons that are cheap by weeks end probably not one better than the other I kind of like Hidden Destiny. <\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">Yonaguska X Vision and Verse X Hidden Destiny.<SPAN style=\"mso-spacerun: yes\">\u00a0 <\/SPAN><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">Well hopefully you enjoyed the discussion on Yonaguska. We should kick around a few more sires in the next couple of months. Good luck and good breeding. <o:p><\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\"><o:p>\u00a0<\/o:p><\/P><P class=MsoNormal style=\"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt\">. <o:p><\/o:p><\/P><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bargain Bred Racing Series Trainers Discuss Yonaguska<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":65,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_container_layout":"default_layout","colormag_page_sidebar_layout":"default_layout","footnotes":""},"categories":[5],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-7626","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-breeding"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7626","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/65"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7626"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7626\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7626"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7626"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7626"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}