{"id":10163,"date":"2012-05-04T09:22:20","date_gmt":"2012-05-04T09:22:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blacktypebugler.com\/?p=10163"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","slug":"oldbtb_1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/?p=10163","title":{"rendered":"Bluegrass Derby &#8211; The Chat Pack&#8217;s Final Preview"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Well it is finally here<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>We&#8217;ve got a Bluegrass Derby field<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>First congratulations must go out to jetman, who&#8217;s Major Alex made the cut<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>woohoo!!!<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>lucky #14<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>yep, congrats again mike!<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Very very excited<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>There were three late entries today, let&#8217;s give them their due before going on to discuss the entire field.<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>lol<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>lets<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>One of them was out before he was in, Main Runner was #23 when he entered and never really had a shot at making the field.<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>moot point then<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>He would have had the highest last out speed (107) if he had made it, but really the entry was a pipe dream<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>That was not the case for Silverton<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>perhaps it was &#8220;just in case&#8221;<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>He&#8217;s a Smart Strike x Silver Deputy x Dixieland Band colt<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Owned by Lilbitfarm he&#8217;s got a 9-7-1-0 $816,165 record<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>He is simply on a tear<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Is there a hotter streak heading into this weekends race?<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>That might be an understatement<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Five straight wins<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>Silverton is a beast<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Three stakes, two G-1s<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>The only race he was off-the-board in was his debut<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>hard to find a flaw with this one<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>and he&#8217;s presence is surely in the back of every other trainers mind in the derby<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>even the he-mare he sprouted from liked 9.5-10 furlongs<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>He&#8217;s beaten three other starters in his last two starts, Immensely, Stevieboy and Clinton&#8217;s Ditch<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>and ironically has Dan in the Saddle \ud83d\ude42<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Excellent training job, brought him along slowly and with a solid plan.<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>this horse is kinda redick, as in RIDICULOUS<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>that is not Dan frank, but that is a mistake many have made.<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>it&#8217;s like we expect him to win. scary stuff.<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>frankster don&#8217;t make no mistakes, hush yo&#8217; mouth.<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>He is scary, he&#8217;s just dominated his fields<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>Silverton is 2nd choice in the morning line behind Mark&#8217;s sick filly<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>He won the Wooden Indian last out by 3 lengths<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I have nothing more to say except that if he wins, we should be thinking Triple Crown. He&#8217;s THAT good.<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>I was just going to say that donny &#8230; are we looking at the second triple crown winner in sim history?<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>it&#8217;s hard to find something negative so say as even distance doesn&#8217;t appear to be a question mark<\/P><P><STRONG>HR-spinround <\/STRONG>Our final entry snuck in at #20 just before entries closed<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>BEN GOWANS!<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Owned by Gowans, Southern Migration is a son of Summer Bird x Tiznow x Kris S.<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>He&#8217;s 7-2-2-1 $199,594<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>As always i defer to my fellow round table mates on the breeding questions, but this one seems loaded with stamina?<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>This colt won the Grade Two Ransom last year over Stevieboy<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>yes I would put him on the list of New Yorker candidates for sure<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>his progression since that G2 win has been disappointing<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>I don&#8217;t think pedigree will hold him back on Saturday. Speed is my question, he&#8217;s never popped a 100+<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>true enough<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>There is always a first time<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>maybe a return to the East Coast will do him right.<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>he does have my favorite jockey in the SIM, New Zealand&#8217;s own GD Mate<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>who won the Breeders Bowl Marathon Dirt this year on GATO DEL LAGO<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>of course that has almost nothing to do with this race today&#8230;<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>lol .. nice plug though donny<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I do my best.<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>southern migration is in over his head here but does have pedigree to get the distance with a HUGE step up<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I agree with Frank&#8230; if he takes back and makes a late run, he might grab a share and put himself in contention for a win in the Third Jewel<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>I&#8217;m not as crazy about him as you guys, but I&#8217;d be fine being proven wrong<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>he&#8217;s hemare was sub par performer so too many questions<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Oddsmakers are with you two as Southern Migration is our longest draw in the field at 26\/1<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>So let&#8217;s take a broader view of the race<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I&#8217;d use him in the &#8220;under&#8221; spot for the superfecta<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Do you think post positions favor\/hurt anyone in particular?<\/P><P><I><SPAN class=HL>HR-beisbol<\/SPAN> opens his eyes really wide<\/I><\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Street Etiquette in the 2 post may find herself on the lead early<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I wouldn&#8217;t want to be 18-19-20&#8230; it just seems so far away<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>LETMEGOCRAZYONU(KY) could be compromised by 18th post<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>connections for Proust and Skitzoid can&#8217;t be pleased at drawing the 20th &#038; 19th gates<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Proust does take back early, it may not hurt him as much as the other two<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>STEVIEBOY ran 2nd in the Lane&#8217;s End when breaking from post 2, so the rail here should be considered a bonus.<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Actually Skitzoid is a closer also<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Who do we expect to set the pace?<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>RAS EL HANOUT always seems to be on the outside, so I would imagine Super is ok with #15<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>Immensely could get squeezed back coming out of the 3 hole<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I can see STREET ETIQUETTE gunning it and playing Catch-me-if-you-can, boys.<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>I will say i am not unhappy with the #14 post for Major Alex, as it seems he always was to the outside in his races<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>I actually see the filly going early here<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>a familar tune donny!<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>\ud83d\ude09<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Gengis Khani may be forwardly placed if he breaks well, although I don&#8217;t think he needs the lead<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>and another plug, we are on a roll gang<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Bolton Valley has wired a graded field in the past<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>yes if I didn&#8217;t know the trainer was in the room, I would say that the only chance for MAJOR ALEX is to be 1-2 the entire trip and hope to outlast the closers<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>agree spin, should be part of the pace for sure<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>GENGIS KHANI(IRE) that is<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>I would prefer he refrained from setting the pace, i always liked when he was stalking.<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>This is a very strong field, but donny you mentioned earlier you thought Silverton could be a Triple Crown threat<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Are there any others you think could go all the way?<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>but as many of us know (hello, cvbear) &#8211; Jockey Select is a dangerous thing. Some lovely rider may decide to go all Stewart Elliot on us and send that closer to the front.<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>I would say Ras El Hanout has to be considered in the triple crown talk<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>Silverton would be my favorite in the Triple Crown pool, indeed. Maybe 50-1 ?<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I agree&#8230; he&#8217;s undefeated on dirt. But a Super-trained horse means they are probably doing everything right&#8230; how will the horse respond to racing on 2 weeks rest?<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>I think Gengis Khani might be the best of this group. With only six starts he could explode.<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>If STREET ETIQUETTE(KY) has a cozy trip out front she will be tough to beat IMO<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>He may be at a disadvantage there.<\/P><P><STRONG>HR-jetman: <\/STRONG>Letmegocrazyonu has been really good this year &#8230; 1st or 2nd in three straight Grade Ones &#8230;<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Ok well let&#8217;s not waste any more time. Give us your picks and why.<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Ladies first spin<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Alright<\/P><P><I><SPAN class=HL>HR-jetman<\/SPAN> takes out his pen &#038; paper to take notes<\/I><\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>although i would fully expect SILVERTON(KY) to keep the filly clearly in his sights<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>I have to cheer for Major Alex. It is purely sentimental but I would go nuts for his owner if this colt crossed the wire first. One of the best guys in the sim.<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Proust &#038; Gengis Khani round out my trifecta<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>wow, that&#8217;d be some payout!<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>good luck to Chat Pack&#8217;s very own Jetman and Major Alex<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>wow spin &#8230; I am speechless. I didn&#8217;t realize your drinking was that bad<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>cough cough NOSHOT cough<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>lol jet<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>But i thank you kindly<\/P><P><I><SPAN class=HL>HR-beisbol<\/SPAN> has something in his throat<\/I><\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>if you have read my BTB articles my sentimental choices actually have done pretty well \ud83d\ude09<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Its okay donny &#8230; your up bud .. give us your selections<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>ok&#8230; maybe a shocker on top<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I really like how WEEKLY EXPRESS(JPN) is coming along. He seems to be maturing with time, and relishing the distance. A real grinder&#8230; not going to make a flashy move, but will try to wear down the front runners and stave off the deep closers.<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>For second, I think SILVERTON cannot be discounted. There is no reason to think he isn&#8217;t going to fire and fire a good one. My guess is he is one that gets close but can&#8217;t go by.<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>Third, I have a dead heat between STREET ETIQUETTE and RAS EL HANOUT &#8211; for the same reasons, in fact. STREET ETIQUETTE may find herself on the lead too soon if the pace is soft, and I think she&#8217;ll be valiant but the extra ground is something she may not like.<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>sorry pc keeps freezing<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Just in time frank &#8230; you are up sir .. give us your picks<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>RAS EL HANOUT looks like one who will be flying late, but maybe his kick is diluted by the longer race&#8230;<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>7 over the 2, 13, 15<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>Well I&#8217;ll go with the super filly freak to have her way on the front end which would also make for a great story!<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>filly bias!<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>lol<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>you just doing a win bet frank .. or you going to give our readers some other betting choices?<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>i&#8217;ll go with Silverton running underneath the filly<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>Ok jet, let&#8217;s hear it \ud83d\ude42<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>and also like Immensely to hit the board here so i&#8217;ll throw him in a trifecta<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>Hey, i&#8217;m not done! :))<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>lol sorry Frank!<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>and the Japanese invader RAS EL HANOUT to roundout my superfecta<\/P><P><B>HR-frankster: <\/B>in closing, perhaps this is the year of the FILLY \ud83d\ude09<\/P><P><STRONG>HR-frankster: <\/STRONG>so recapping numbers&#8230;..2 &#8211; 13 &#8211; 3 &#8211; 15<\/P><P><STRONG>HR-frankster: <\/STRONG>stage is yours mike, sorry \ud83d\ude42<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Well let me begin by stating i will be throwing a few Benjamins on Major Alex to win. I just have to believe, and at 22\/1 that would be one hell of a party!!!<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>But our readers don&#8217;t want to hear that .. so we will go with hot horse Silverton to win, Gengis Khani to place and Street Etiquette to round out my top three. I found nine horses i wanted to include in some fashion, but we gotta keep it real. Silverton is on fire, Gengis Khani seems primed to explode, and Street Etiguette just oozes class.<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Seriously though &#8230; was a tough race to handicap<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>You heard it hear first. Lots of love for the filly, Silverton and Gengis Khani<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>I&#8217;m on an island with WEEKLY EXPRESS<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>but much respect to the big 2 and Ras El &#8212; the big 3?<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>donny i had Weekly Express in my list<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>That just means it will be all the sweeter if you are right donny<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>u did?<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>that&#8217;s what I said, right?<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>just didn&#8217;t make my final three lol<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>i said i had a list of nine i was working with. He was in THAT list<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>You were the only person to select him in your wager<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>I think I can safely say that all of us in the Chat Pack offer big congratulations to everyone who has a runner in the Bluegrass Derby.<\/P><P><B>HR-spinround <\/B>We&#8217;ll be cheering for a cleanly run race and for every horse to come back safe.<\/P><P><B>HR-beisbol: <\/B>absolutely. its a huge accomplishment to draw into the field<\/P><P><B>HR-jetman: <\/B>Good luck everyone!<\/P><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Hot Tips Right Here!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":401,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"colormag_page_container_layout":"default_layout","colormag_page_sidebar_layout":"default_layout","footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10163","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-previews"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10163","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/401"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=10163"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10163\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=10163"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=10163"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/btb.ehorseracing.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=10163"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}